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In your company’s darkest moment, remember: You CAN pivot from failure to success. But only if you slash and burn everything that isn’t working. And then bring everyone else along. Slack’s Co-Founder and CEO Stewart Butterfield has twice navigated this kind of Big Pivot. He launched two different game companies, which turned into game-changing communications platforms (Flickr and Slack).

“A piece of advice I’d give my younger self: Concentrate on the storytelling, on convincing people. If you can’t do that, it doesn’t matter how good the product is.”

— Stewart Butterfield
About the guest:

Stewart Butterfield is the co-founder and CEO of Slack, the overwhelmingly popular team messaging application. Before that, he was the co-founder and CEO of Flickr, which grew out of his initial work with social game networks.

About the host:

Reid Hoffman is the host of Masters of Scale. A Silicon Valley entrepreneur and investor, he’s known for his spot-on insights on how to scale a startup. He’s a partner at Greylock and co-founder of LinkedIn, and co-author of the best-selling Blitzscaling and The Startup of You.

Also featured in this episode:

Tim Lefler has worked with Stewart Butterfield since the days of Game Neverending. They now work together at Slack.

You can pivot from failure to success – but only if you slash and burn the rest of your business.

Transcript of Masters of Scale: The big pivot
Masters of Scale’s mission is to democratize entrepreneurship. Launched in 2017 as a weekly podcast featuring Reid Hoffman, we’re now two weekly podcasts — Masters of Scale with Reid Hoffman, and Masters of Scale: Rapid Response, hosted by Bob Safian — as well as an award-winning daily learning app, a best-selling book, virtual and live events, and more, serving a global community of founders, funders, and leaders looking to innovate at scale.
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