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Podcast: Must Listen

Think like an outsider


How do you evolve your greatest obstacle into your greatest superpower? Shellye Archambeau, Ellevest’s Sallie Krawcheck, and Calendly’s Tope Awotona discuss the hidden advantages of strategizing like an entrepreneurial outsider. Recorded live at the Masters of Scale Summit in San Francisco, they sit down with host Bob Safian to share lessons about questioning the status quo, maintaining confidence in the face of criticism, and orchestrating a cultural turnaround. Whether you’re a budding entrepreneur or firmly established in the C-suite, the outsider’s mindset has the power to inject counterintuitive creativity and dynamism into your leadership.


“Succeeding in today’s chaotic economy requires doing things differently. These three leaders learned that the hard way, by overcoming obstacles that might have derailed others.”